1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,960 are men in black, very provocative subject, and long opinions form against impulsive 2 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:20,120 subject. And some people have had some very nasty experiences with these gentlemen in 3 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:30,960 black. And we look forward very much to hearing what our speaker tonight has to say about 4 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,960 someone. Ladies and gentlemen, may I present to Norman Oliver. 5 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:48,560 Thank you very much, Adam. Well, good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Now, you know, I seem 6 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:54,800 to be up here so often these days in one capacity or another that I really couldn't blame anyone 7 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:59,800 for thinking I was doing rather too much of the talking, especially since as you'll see 8 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:06,040 from your cards, that I appear to be hogging two meetings completely. So firstly, I'd like 9 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:11,680 to explain how this came about. Now, I put myself down to speak for Cosmos on March the 10 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:18,320 21st, having just completed the Cosmos program, when I was on to the Baker Safety beforeer 11 00:01:18,320 --> 00:01:24,320 program through to me, saying that it left the February date open for talks by me. And 12 00:01:24,320 --> 00:01:30,320 as I had to get the details off to the printer straight away, I had the alternative either 13 00:01:30,320 --> 00:01:35,520 of leaving tonight's date blank or of giving two talks, one to Cosmos and one to Beutore. 14 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:41,520 Well, I chose the latter course, which explains why you have to sit and suffer both in February 15 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:48,680 painting March. You know, I've given a variety of talks, one you've posed, to a variety of 16 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:55,680 associations and societies. From church, from youth clubs and young conservative associations, 17 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:03,240 to astronomical associations, via such noble institutions as the Tosridge Women's Institute, 18 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:09,760 where being the only male present, I was somewhat unnerved and certainly unvoiced by being expected 19 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:16,880 to change Jerusalem before I began. Through then to the South of the Tens Jewish Society, 20 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:22,400 where before the lights fell, and I was somewhat beused at first by everyone, everybody wishing 21 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:28,640 each other a happy new year, when it was only just October. However, it was one thing to give a 22 00:02:28,640 --> 00:02:34,880 talk to people, most of whom haven't the slightest knowledge of the subject, and quite another to 23 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:40,960 speak to those who are already well-versed in Sors and Law. And even if they don't all we answer, 24 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:47,520 at least they know all your good questions. First of all, let me make it quite clear that once I've 25 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:54,320 posed for a title of my talk the question as to whether there are many Blacks, I do not, to my 26 00:02:54,320 --> 00:03:00,640 knowledge, number any of these attention amongst my acquaintances. Neither am I one myself, 27 00:03:00,640 --> 00:03:06,080 nor I sincerely hope that none have managed to creep in here tonight. In fact, quite frankly, 28 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:11,680 I do not know the answer to my own question. So before someone asks me then why the devil 29 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:17,600 I'm speaking about them, I'll tell you what I propose to do. This is to give you quite a few 30 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:24,720 facts on various alleged many Black faces from different parts of the world, to discuss various 31 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:31,360 lines of thought on the subject, and then leave you to accept or reject any of these as you see fit. 32 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:38,960 Now at this stage it occurs to me that whilst most of you here know something about many Black 33 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:45,200 activities, there may well be others who are comparatively new to the subject and are wondering 34 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:50,560 what the heck that bloke up there's lettering about. We can here, open here, something about 35 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:57,520 flying saucers. Well very briefly, many Blacks came into prominence quite a few years ago now 36 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:04,320 when a chap named Al Bender was persuaded to give up his UFO researching activities following 37 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:11,280 visits by three of these Gentries. Since then quite a few UFO researchers, people who've had UFO 38 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:16,720 sightings and contact thieves, are alleged to have been so trunched in one way or another and 39 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:22,320 subsequently spiraled by intimidation and some description. I believe in some cases this may 40 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:27,120 well have occurred, I'm certainly not saying it's happening. But one thing I would ask you to be 41 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:34,240 in mind, and that is that most people love a mystery, I do myself. And if I may be forgiven 42 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:41,040 the paraphrase, may have made a mystery out of a molehill, I said in some case. However to come 43 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:47,040 to example, there is really so much material that it's a hard job to know where to begin. 44 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:53,360 But I think that some of the reports and articles in Slaughter News from the state, articles by 45 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:57,760 John Heale, Great Barker and James Mowley are as good a place as any. 46 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:05,680 Now in the editorial of Slaughter News of autumn 1967, James Mowley wrote, 47 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:11,200 Information reaching us during the past few months from several reliable sources 48 00:05:11,840 --> 00:05:17,120 indicates that leading researchers as well as ordinary sources cited throughout the country, 49 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:23,040 the country course being the USA, are being subjected to an unbelievably complex and 50 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:29,120 extensive series of frightening events. Among them, a tentative as well as successful 51 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:36,320 such-up by mysterious strangers usually dressed in dark clothing, weird or threatening phone calls 52 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:43,680 and letters, and so on. The appearance of cars with meaningless license plates or no plates at all 53 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,360 which have followed certain new parent investigators and the sources they were. 54 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:52,480 The other events which are so utterly fantastic that we hesitate to put them into print. 55 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:58,000 Please don't think that we've lost our equilibrium or are nearly trying to gather 56 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:02,560 UFO investigation. We are merely reporting the evidence which we've uncovered. 57 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:09,360 It is difficult to pinpoint just where and when and where these events begin. 58 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:15,600 Our first attempt to bring the truth to our readers regarding this new phase in the mystery 59 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:21,520 was on a summer issue where we reported that the US Air Force admits still having checked out a 60 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:27,600 number of cases in which mysterious and postures bearing impressive but completely phoning official 61 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:33,280 credentials have visited and frightened source fighters in various parts of the United States. 62 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:39,120 This following report which was from John Keel was later substantiated by an official 63 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:46,240 Air Force letter dated March 1st 1967 and his editorial says that this letter intended for 64 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:52,480 distribution to all command is signed by an assistant deputy chief of staff of the Air Force. 65 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:57,760 I can't help feeling that I'm an assistant deputy chief of staff if someone rather 66 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,400 low down and not high up but still. 67 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:08,000 Most of this editorial continues, at a recent UFO convention in New York several delegates 68 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:12,560 claimed to have been watched and followed while walking on the narrow level to the hotel Commodore 69 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,760 by individuals who looked and acted like official military or civilian investigators. 70 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:23,440 But who as we later learned by checking with the manager had no connection with the hotel. 71 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,480 These men were apparently working out at a room near the hotel's coffee shop 72 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:33,760 to which they'd access from a low level hall and from the nearby Grand Central Station. 73 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:40,720 The uneven result was that they had wire tapping equipment set up temporarily in the room 74 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,400 so by the time anyone thought to check this out it was too late. 75 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,400 The convention was over and the men, however they were, had departed. 76 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,960 Well, so much for the excerpt from James Moses' editorial. 77 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:58,160 In the same issue of Thornton News there are a variety of many black reports quoted 78 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:03,200 and again I'm not saying I believe or I just believe any particular one. 79 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:08,240 Though I will say that I don't think it is by any means inconceivable that one or two of them 80 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:14,400 have seen jazz up a bit. Anyway, here are some of them a year still being 1967. 81 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:22,080 On August 4th a black Cadillac made a deliberate attempt to run over a UFO witness on the main 82 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:28,720 street from a Long Island town. Again on Long Island too many Air Force uniforms harassed UFO 83 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:35,440 witnesses. One of these men identified himself as a Lieutenant Frank Gleibis and threatened 84 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:42,800 two different people with a revolver warning them to watch out who you talk to. Colonel John 85 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:48,560 Dorton interviewed at least three Long Island residents and asked them to fill out conjugated 86 00:08:48,560 --> 00:08:54,480 phones which contained involved questions about the witness's personal history. Through a picture 87 00:08:54,480 --> 00:09:00,480 of on Long Island John Keel had a check run on both these men. The Air Force denied that it knew 88 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:05,200 anything about either one or the domain with those names were assigned anywhere on the island. 89 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:11,040 Lieutenant Frank Gleibis later turned up in a postman's uniform and was followed by Keel. 90 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:17,040 Gleibis and another man were engaged in taking photographs of the homes of UFOs cited. 91 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:24,480 While involved in this investigation Keel had two encounters with a large black Cadillac in an 92 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:31,520 isolated section of Long Island. In one of these encounters the Cadillac which contained two dark 93 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:38,160 skinned men was parked and laying in wait on a deserted road. In the other incident Keel did a 94 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:43,920 turnabout and followed the Cadillac for several months. Also reported the following incidents 95 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:50,080 alleged to have happened through a Mr Robert Easley of Defiant Sohoia. Now Mr Robert Easley would 96 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:56,160 seem to be a sort of researcher of some repute holding positions of importance in several UFO 97 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:04,320 investigations including that of Ohio director of the Interplanetary New Zealand and he was apparently 98 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:10,560 an assistant investigator to the late Professor Maynard. In the small hours of July the 11th 99 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:15,520 Mr Easley was awakened by a phone call from a lady who told him that she and seven others were 100 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:21,760 observing two bright fast-moving UFOs. After she hung up he immediately got dressed and went to the 101 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:27,840 sea. While checking out this report he noticed that he was being followed by a man in a black 102 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:34,240 sedan with no license plate. The driver who was a complete stranger to Easley was dressed in black 103 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:39,840 shoes, black dress trousers and a dark blue furrow of a shoe. He missed out on that one. 104 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:46,160 On July the 15th he became followed home by the same man in the same car that he was driving his 105 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:53,760 girlfriend home. When he pulled into her driveway the unknown car sped off. Later that evening as the 106 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:59,680 two sat talking on the front porch the car came down the road and stopped right in front of the 107 00:10:59,680 --> 00:11:06,160 house as soon as the topic of UFOs entered the conversation. Easley could feel the man staring 108 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:11,920 at them. When they got off the subject the car left but when they returned to it an hour later 109 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:18,160 the same car came back again. It was as if the serious driver could hear what they were saying 110 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:26,720 or could read their mind. On July the 17th Mr Easley was checking out another rather routine report 111 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:31,280 and the man reappeared and followed him through and from the scene of the sighting dressed in a 112 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:38,640 parallel of the same clothes was before. Between the 11th and the 17th of July Easley received a total 113 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:44,960 of 12 strange phone calls. In each case the only sound on the other end of the line was a strange 114 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:52,480 beeping noise. Each call lasted for about 15 seconds followed by a complete silence. The beep 115 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:59,600 sounded far away and as if coming from a machine possibly a tape record. No explanation could be 116 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:05,840 offered by the telephone operator. Easley tends to connect to these unusual events with plans 117 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:13,280 he had during that period to check out a possible flying saucer landing sighting southern Ohio. 118 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:18,080 After the area was finally checked and early orbit and found to have no importance after all 119 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:25,600 the succession of persecutions ceased. Even though it sounds something like a plot from the TV series 120 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:31,120 The Invaders Easley believes that the aliens wherever they are apparently knew about his plans 121 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:37,680 to explore the site and rest it easy after nothing was found there. Mr Easley now echoes the warnings 122 00:12:37,680 --> 00:12:44,320 given out many years ago by Albert K. Bender one of the first alleged to be silent by the notorious 123 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:50,720 three men in black. Bender said that many will remember that extreme caution should be exercised 124 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:59,440 by all who are investigators. Now there are many more examples I should say alleged examples 125 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:05,840 of many black activity in this and in other editions of Sourcer News and I'm stressed that all 126 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:13,040 I'm doing is presenting them to you not vouching for their truth. However before I turn from the 127 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:20,800 American scene an article written by John Keel again in 1967 is worth quoting from as it is written 128 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:26,880 from the silencing viewpoint if I may call it that. Personally I do not entirely agree with him 129 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:33,520 particularly so far as my own experience in this country goes but more of that later. This is what 130 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:40,480 Keel has to say and I'll quote it. This has I know already been printed in one of the issues of the 131 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:48,880 before a journal elsewhere but I think it's quite worthwhile to read Keel wrote already thousands 132 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:54,160 of people in the United States know the full secret believe it or not and thousands more will 133 00:13:54,160 --> 00:14:00,880 have the answer before this year ends. I believe the year was 19 a couple of years ago 1967. 134 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:07,760 These people comprise a select group which we now call silent contact teams and have been playing 135 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:14,880 a small but important role in the numerous flecks of the past three years. In my travels 136 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:19,920 throughout the country in the last year I've uncovered and interviewed dozens of these silent 137 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:26,400 contact teams. They all have the same story to tell and more important most of them have been given 138 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:32,720 identical artifacts with truth of their experience. The silent contact teams differ from the over 139 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:39,760 publicized contact teams of the past in several important ways. First of all they are afraid to 140 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:45,920 speak up and to be what they know. They find themselves in the midst of a complex conspiracy 141 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:52,320 which poses personal threats to them and they are involuntarily enlisted to participate in a series 142 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:58,960 of experiments and adventures which go far beyond anything ever dreamed up by science fiction writers. 143 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:06,320 Extensive contacts have actually been going on since 1939 but many have been handled in such a manner 144 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:11,920 that the contact team did not actually realize what was happening to him and frequently rejected 145 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:19,920 the whole situation as some kind of host or in some cases as an hallucination or a ghost experience. 146 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:26,160 In many cases once the contact teams were all in the phenomenon was finished they were somehow 147 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:33,200 brainwashed and conscious memory of their experiences with white to black. I've learned 148 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:39,200 other cases in which the silent contact teams either went insane or committed suicide. 149 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:45,120 A number of very well known new photo searchers have been silent contact teams for years 150 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:50,160 that of course just sprinkled genuine clues in their books and articles that have never dared to 151 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:57,040 reveal the whole story. Other prominent anthropologists have been contacted briefly and given specific 152 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:05,040 information to be deliberately passed on to their readers. Ironically real truth is so bizarre 153 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:10,720 sensible researchers usually rejected outright until they themselves had post-hand experience. 154 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:16,400 Many of them find it impossible to cope with emotionally and to make quietly abandon new 155 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:22,800 photo search in the interest of self-prepavation. Nearly all the speculations and conclusions 156 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:29,440 of the last two decades are totally false. The celebrated scientific method can not in fact be 157 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:35,520 successfully applied to this situation. Astronomers and scientists are the people least equipped to 158 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:40,400 understand the phenomenon thanks for their rigid disciplines and preconceived notions of the universe. 159 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:46,960 Metaphysicians on the other hand are too galloping and too quick to apply any pseudo-scientific 160 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:53,600 explanation. There is no simple answer to the mystery. All of the current theories ranging from 161 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:59,520 extraterrestrial to false dimensional can not actually be applied. Once the researcher has 162 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:04,880 learned to revise his approach to the subject and discovered the keys to look for in the new cases 163 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:10,560 he can uncover the secrets in a matter of weeks. Many of them already done so and they're keeping 164 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:16,720 their mouth shut. The secret has been under our nose it all along. Even before this answer is 165 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:23,680 printed thousands more will learn the real truth behind the flying saucer. Like the others they 166 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:30,400 will keep quiet not even their neighbors will know. The use of truth is something like psychiatry. 167 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:34,800 The psychiatrist cannot tell you what is wrong you can only guide you to learning the truth 168 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:41,360 about yourself. So it is with you though it takes personal experience to convince you of the truth. 169 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:46,800 You have been told the truth many times in books and publications that you have rejected it. 170 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:52,960 This elusive truth cannot be summed up in a few words or a few pages so that it will 171 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:59,280 be more credible. Some contactees have tried. Unfortunately very few people are strong enough 172 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:05,680 or emotionally stable enough to cope with the whole secret. And the average UFO researcher 173 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:10,800 does not fully realize the great personal risks involved until they have enmeshed themselves 174 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:16,480 in the situation and then it is too late. That's the end of the quote from Donald Keele. 175 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:24,480 Well now I think from the fact that I found Cosmos in order to uncover contact cases and to 176 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:30,560 investigate and put into practice all possible methods of possible communication with spacemen 177 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:37,200 or space entities says for itself that I don't entirely go along with it. You see from what 178 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:44,960 John Keele writes it follows to me that near their heart no whole secret himself and therefore 179 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:51,920 be one of these presumed increasing truth. Surely as he says we have been told the truth many times 180 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:58,080 our minds or most of our minds at any rate ought by now to be capable of accepting it 181 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:03,600 without going round the bend because according to Mr Keele we must have frequently read it. 182 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:10,400 Now I don't pretend to know all the answers myself. That's what I want to find out. 183 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:16,240 But surely the answers must be along some or some combination of these possibilities. 184 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:24,160 Sources could be visited from interplanetary interstellar or intergalactic space whose 185 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:30,240 occupants may be either family, hostile or intent on exploitation or colonization. 186 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:36,560 They may or may not have connections with the spiritualistic, occult or religious field also. 187 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:43,200 Craft may be inter-dimensional with beings from other planes that exist and possibly even coexist 188 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:49,200 with ourselves. They could come from bases under the Earth or for that matter bases on the Earth, 189 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:54,640 the occupants being of places we're unaware of or from other planets or systems with bases here. 190 00:19:55,840 --> 00:20:01,200 They could be time traveling from Earth or elsewhere. They might own us, own this planet 191 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:08,080 and all we know of ownership could be taken in hand at this moment. It is possible we may be 192 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:12,800 being invaded by some type or type of entity that can change their forms as well. 193 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,960 If you use whatever occasion it might be that requires suitability or again, 194 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:23,600 Earth may be about to explode or be engulfed in the sun turning over and they're here to take off. 195 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:29,680 Some of the population now being chosen or are suddenly to have overdue the dawn of a new age 196 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:36,080 on Earth. They may be partly or entirely connected with what we might loosely term the occult 197 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:42,000 and not physical entities of choice. Now there are many more possibilities I could quote. I'll 198 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:46,720 finish the list with one that some people have come up with and that is that they come from the devil. 199 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:54,800 Now, I'm perfectly capable of I'm sure many others are accepting any of the peregrine possibilities 200 00:20:54,800 --> 00:21:00,400 and plenty more without going round the bed. Declarly since according to John Keill, 201 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:05,840 he's already repeatedly being told the answer therefore it should lie somewhere amongst those 202 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:12,960 I've already made. Now they come from the devil. These words you know remind me of our complete 203 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:19,600 fallacy in our bender's book about the free man. One of them told him quite categorically there is no 204 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:26,480 life after death. Well I'll elige to have told him that. Now I'll just think about that for a moment 205 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:32,160 because if there is a life after death it must always be a possibility as indeed many people 206 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:38,320 believe that those who have died will find a means to tell us so. Now the only way you could possibly 207 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:45,120 know that there was no life after death would be for someone who had died to tell us. Should there be 208 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:54,640 no life after life? So obviously it couldn't do. It's a paradox. Certainly one may choose to believe 209 00:21:54,640 --> 00:22:00,400 or laugh in an afterlife as one pleases but the categorical statement that there is no afterlife 210 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:06,960 is impossible to substantiate and so whatever one believes them will always remain a possibility. 211 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:13,520 Well having got slightly addressed from meaning black, that means pause here and turn to cases in 212 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:20,880 great Britain. Now on December the 5th of last year, last year sorry the year before last now, 213 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:27,440 the BBC programme today included a three minute interview with a Mr Brian Leighly Andrew who'd 214 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:33,760 opened a UFO information centre in Coventry and he decided to close it down following some rather 215 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:41,520 unusual happening. Andrew immediately headed that this was a man in black case. This was in fact 216 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:48,080 referred to in an earlier edition of the Cognos Journal. However I wrote to Mr Andrew and asked 217 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:55,680 him if this was actually so. This was his reply and I quote. He said, my original intention was to 218 00:22:55,680 --> 00:23:00,720 collect information from the public who had seen or had experience with UFOs or similar objects. 219 00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:07,120 The results were remarkable. I had about 12 genuine reports filmed or sent by less than two 220 00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:13,520 even local people. I also had some non-genuine idiots filming in the shape of Batman and someone 221 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:19,440 who called himself a Martian. But these are no concrete. The phone call I was concerned about 222 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:25,120 was on the second or third day of the centre being open. It was a man who found that he 223 00:23:25,120 --> 00:23:32,160 spoke in perfect English, in fact too perfect. He used no slang or everyday expressions. He asked, 224 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:37,920 almost insisted that I told him all the information collected by me during the time the centre had 225 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:44,080 been open. He also asked if a woman had been in touch with me to tell of aliens. She had seen 226 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:51,600 working on a UFO or spacecraft in common trends. He would not let me question him on this but I 227 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:57,520 could only presume he meant a craft which had landed and was being repaired. He goes on another 228 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:02,080 impression I called whilst talking to this man was that he had seen this woman watching him 229 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,640 working on the craft and wanted to know if the fact had come to the attention of myself or any 230 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:13,360 other authority. Of course last words were I will contact you in two days please don't publish 231 00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:19,680 anything I have told you. If you didn't contact me again and if any andrew goes on an incident 232 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:24,800 occurred with lights for varying intensity on about the third or fourth week of the centre being open. 233 00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:31,040 I was in the house of someone who had seen UFOs on at least three occasions. We had press cuttings 234 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:37,520 out and were discussing scout craft and motherships and the possibility of the latest object had seen 235 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:43,600 being part of what someone else had seen in photographs. The main source of electricity is 236 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:50,320 240 volts and is very constant to about five and no more than 10 volts up or down. The dimming 237 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:55,520 that occurred was in the world of 40 volts up or down. This occurred for the second half of the 238 00:24:55,520 --> 00:25:01,200 one and a half hours I was in the house. The third incident occurred when I was repairing my car at 239 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:06,720 the rear of my mother's home. I was in fact underneath the car which was raised off the ground by two 240 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:13,760 reds. I was in the open and able to see the garage next to that of my father and as I was getting off 241 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:21,200 I saw a man with an orange face. The face was glowing and perhaps more red than orange and the 242 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:27,840 head about one third larger than normal. Had eyes, nose and mouth I cannot tell whether any 243 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:33,440 ears were attached to it. Nothing was said to me neither did I say anything to the frame which as I 244 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:40,480 watched it began to smelt. The orange red appearance left it and it became smaller and changed to that 245 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:46,240 one old man. The conversion from the red thing to normal took me about half a minute. 246 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:53,200 Well in answer to various questions I put to him it was established that only the one phone call 247 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:59,600 lasting three to five minutes was received by Mr Andrew who stated that the caller asked him if 248 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:07,200 anyone from Cosmos, Contact UK or before I had been in touch with him. Now as far as I suspect here 249 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,920 if he'd been writing to before or Contact UK the order of those three would be reversed 250 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:18,960 never mind. The caller made to his home and the caller did not as I had at first thought 251 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:26,320 request Mr Andrew to abandon his usual activity. The answer to a question about possible electrical 252 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:32,240 faults when the dimming incident occurred is reply was this is possible that the lights on 253 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:38,560 a normally stable circuit to vary about 40 volts up and down, 5 or 6 times is a bit much. 254 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:44,400 So nothing there that one could really call pressure in any blast despite the fact that 255 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:52,560 it was alleged to be so in the first instance. Now we now come to another rumored MIB case in 256 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:58,560 another part of England which was referred to not all that while back in a British in a British 257 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:03,920 use old journal. Now I haven't obtained the permission of a person concerned to talk about 258 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:09,280 this case but I think you'll agree it really is worth mentioning so I've been very highly 259 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:15,120 original and calling Mr Rex. It was alleged that Mr Rex had abandoned his source of activities 260 00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:21,920 after many black activity and rumour also had it that he'd been scared into doing so by a man who 261 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:28,480 to transfigure himself in the presence of Mr Egg and his wife. Some sources suggesting that the man 262 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:36,400 himself was an alien however I went to see Mr Rex myself and found that he had not abandoned 263 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:43,200 his use of activities at all although in a twisted sort of way there was a basis of truth in the 264 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:50,720 MIB suggestion. Well those actual experience would appear on the surface to bear very little 265 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:58,800 relation to UFOs I think you'll find it well worth mentioning. So here it is. Now the man who 266 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:04,480 apparently was capable of transfiguring himself I shall call Bill. He does happen to be his name 267 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:11,520 actually. He's in his six years in the regular church girl and was actively interested in UFOs 268 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:19,120 as well as psychic matters. Now this man has formed a local UFO group and here's the MIB 269 00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:26,240 connection had to disbanded it after one or two or three I think it was from many black 270 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:32,160 types who had threatened him once winning the national insurance although it's not exactly 271 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:39,120 clear what he was in fact threatened with. However, our Mr Rex came to hear of Bill through 272 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:46,880 prayer and here's his wife called on him several times. On the last occasion which was in September 273 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:53,920 1968 Mr Rex asked Bill about his reputed ability to transfigure himself and Bill told him yes 274 00:28:53,920 --> 00:29:00,160 he did happen but he couldn't control it. It sometimes happened when his mind was tired 275 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:06,000 and suddenly he appeared to the people of a different person himself being very short and thin. 276 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:12,800 Well on this last occasion Mr Rex and his wife had stayed until about one or two in the morning 277 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:19,360 before they departing and as they were going down the path Mr Rex found that all his movements 278 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:26,400 were slowing out and it was as much as he could do to move. He looked back and the figure of the 279 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:33,280 door was of a man who looked completely different and had an utterly different feel very portrait 280 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:39,440 not thin at all. This is ex-pain very frightened and told her husband to hurry to the car which was 281 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:44,400 parked a few doors up from the house. It was in such a position that they would have to drive 282 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:51,360 past the house again before they reached the main road. Well Mr Rex just about made it to the car 283 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:56,720 all of his movements were getting slower and slower all the time. He just couldn't do anything about it 284 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:02,080 and inside the car it was icy cold all done for a pretty warm night from the time of year. 285 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:09,120 He got the car going still in slow motion and as they gradually passed the gate he saw 286 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:15,840 the figure walking down the path through the gate and as he or it walked they could see 287 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:22,720 it was surrounded by a blue aura. Anyway as the car gradually moved out of the area normal 288 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:27,280 movements came back to Mr Rex so he still felt cold and mentally and physically unwell. 289 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:33,680 This feeling suddenly left off about an hour. The following day they told friends about the 290 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:39,120 occurrence and a few days later they had a phone call from Bill who said he'd been told he'd had 291 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:44,720 a transformation when they left but he'd been unaware of it at the time and he said he'd like 292 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:50,320 to come over and see them which after some did know they finally agreed to his doing. 293 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:57,840 When he came he told them all he remembered was walking down the path to wave them goodbye. 294 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:03,840 He was absolutely himself unaware of any transformation. The only tentative explanation 295 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:09,200 of his transfiguration he could give was that he believed that in a former existence he'd been 296 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:15,680 a monk and that when his mind reached a certain degree of emptiness or tiredness his form of 297 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:22,880 personality took him over. He added to that at times he visited the certain spot in the ground 298 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:28,560 for Yorkshire Abbey, I've been there myself actually, where he feels a very special sense of relief 299 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:34,080 and elation although it's another spot about a quarter of a mile away he tells exactly the opposite. 300 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:40,640 So altogether quite an unusual story I'm sure you'll agree and I think one will worth repeating. 301 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:48,240 Well now some of you will know I'm sure that I had a great deal to do with the investigations 302 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:53,200 into the Friscoveritan mystery in which the late Ernest Arthur Bryant was the central figure 303 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:59,600 that he alleged to contact T. Well I'm not going into the pros and cons of that case now except on 304 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:06,960 two points. Firstly some months ago to my establishment I found a reference in one of the American magazine 305 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:14,880 to Bryant having been visited by men in black. Well I'm not saying he wasn't but I will say 306 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:20,000 and without a fear of contradiction that I've spent more time on Bryant's claims than anyone else. 307 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:26,480 I visited him on numerous occasions by dozens of letters from him and all together about 10 or 308 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:32,240 12 hours in fake recording. And absolutely nowhere is there any indication whatsoever that he's 309 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:37,600 suffered any form of attention from men in black. I would very much like to know where that magazine 310 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:43,120 contains information. Trouble is I read it in passing, didn't mark it at the time, 311 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,840 how he had something like 30 different American exchange magazines having been able to locate him again. 312 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:56,240 Second point I would like to make about Morrison's this. I regard it as an inherently possible story 313 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:03,040 it could have happened. Unfortunately I now regard it as extremely unlikely to have actually done so. 314 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:09,680 The reason I refer to it again now is that while I don't regard them as classical men in black 315 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:15,440 size I now believe there were in fact three involved in cutting up the story that Bryant executed. 316 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:21,280 I shouldn't say more on this here now since this is the men in black talk not the hopes of on last 317 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:28,640 the 21st when the other cases amongst other cases I shall be expelling more on the development 318 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:36,320 of ones in the Scottish and affair. Now to make a personal point I can only speak here for two 319 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:43,760 youth organizations but to my knowledge no one in any executive position in these organizations 320 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,720 have ever been threatened in any way because they've been delving too deeply into the UFO enigma. 321 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:54,640 On the other hand I often wonder you know should I at any time decide that UFOs were taking 322 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,560 up too much of my time and I dropped active interest in the subject 323 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:04,320 that a whole crop of rumors would start up about my having been silenced. I don't think they would you know. 324 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:11,520 How is actually being approached as concerned? I can only read through a repeat right what I wrote 325 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:18,080 in Cosmos Journal number two which was should communications in type be received from men in 326 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:24,560 black Cosmos guarantees that such communications will be publicized in future editions of the journal 327 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,920 whether or not they are of a threatening nature and no matter what form they take 328 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:36,480 they'll be going to the law of an expensive. I should just add to that though that as I also wrote 329 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:42,080 would be hoped as need not bother should they do so they will be exposed to the pages of this 330 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:47,760 journal when found out but please note the word is when and not if. In other words what I'm saying 331 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:53,280 is as far as this country is concerned and I suspect this country that I've come across very little 332 00:34:53,280 --> 00:35:00,880 basis or evidence of many black activity certainly not at both of the executive level. I'm not saying 333 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:06,800 there is none I mean that only just in the one case I referred to earlier have I found any indication 334 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:14,960 that there might be. Now before I switch back to a final look at the magazine I'm sure you'll 335 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:20,720 forgive me for referring once again as I did last week to the most unfortunate recent death 336 00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:26,960 of Dr. Linkner the well-known Australian ufologist who at the time of his death was on a world tour 337 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:33,360 on behalf of his employer and at the same time grafting the opportunity to visit various UFO 338 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:38,880 personalities and societies in the various countries he passed through. Lionel will be 339 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:44,400 inviting me to meet him when he visited when Dr. Linkner visited London for a couple of days last 340 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:50,160 summer and I was therefore extremely upset because only about 10 days later he'd been killed at a 341 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:56,480 truck via train at Frankfurt Station in Germany the day following going to see Carl Peter Wiesbaden 342 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:03,360 who publishes the Joan UFO the Joan paper using a fishnet. Now this is a week after his death 343 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:09,440 I heard it implies from several different people that this was the main black cut he's been pushed 344 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:14,960 and so on. Well what in fact actually happened as you can read in space Link is that as he was 345 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:20,800 getting his last pieces of luggage on the train it was flagged away and he fell under the train 346 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:26,480 as it started to move being dragged along by it because it left the station with a very sad 347 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:31,840 and unfortunate accident but it had nothing to do with many black and it's worth of our 348 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:39,440 bearing in mind how quickly in some people's minds it became so connected. To return again 349 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:45,200 for moments of source and news the idea was put forward in a recent issue that the UFO 350 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:51,520 personalities were being duplicated whilst least impersonated by many black types from a number 351 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:58,240 of occasions. Various noted researchers have apparently been seen as spoken to in different 352 00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:03,920 places of the same time. This line of thought you know is an intriguing one whether or not one 353 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:09,440 believes the report as one of the things John Keillers imagined is that some contactee the 354 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:14,720 witnesses of the source of landings have been pressing for substitution should they not remain 355 00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:20,640 silent. Mind if we take this line of thought too seriously it does become paradoxically 356 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:27,600 a sort of cartoonist dream of the how are you I think I know who you are in the live variety 357 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:34,160 and also rather science fiction. But oddly enough I do know of a case in this country where 358 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:41,360 substitution has been alleged although not in an MIB context this particular case supposedly being 359 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:48,320 with the consent of the person concerned. Before I finally leave our long-fringed source of news 360 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:54,560 incidentally you may be interested to know that allegedly photos were taken of many black 361 00:37:55,200 --> 00:38:03,760 and they appear in a copy of source of news that I have here. For what it's worth that is a photograph 362 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:11,920 of also a photograph of a car on the front page of it where obviously they could have been quite 363 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:17,520 deliberately tone although I would hesitate to say definitely that they were true or false 364 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:22,720 but it is I think worthwhile pointing out that the picture of the car do not go down as far as 365 00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:28,480 enormously. One thing quite a few people particularly those who are interested in trying source of 366 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:34,400 news are also seen to stuff of gone are odd phone calls. I refer to Mr. Reesley that is alleged 367 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:40,160 been firmly wrong. One can also find that there's no one at the other end of the line and find one's 368 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:46,880 contribution interrupted by purely the noises and so on. So far this hasn't troubled me over much. 369 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:53,280 Please no hoax call though I wish I hadn't said that. Actually and this has nothing to do with 370 00:38:53,280 --> 00:39:00,160 trying source of or mission if it has is working in a pretty well about manner but actually nearly 371 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:05,360 only one number to bring us up and there's been plenty of them at all hours and on the nearest 372 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:11,200 doctor which puzzled us quite a bit until I found out that our doctor's health service 373 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:16,320 registration number which was all or all his patients medical cards just happened to be the 374 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:23,120 same as our phone number which explained quite a lot. These are the only odd calls I can 375 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:28,240 really remember personally with one evening when I answered the phone and all I've seen 376 00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:35,760 that could hear at the other end was the usual heavy breathing. So once I just paged our number 377 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:42,400 and said hello a few times I decided I'd do something a bit more drastic. So I took a deep breath 378 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:48,160 and I now close to the mouth page where the top of the voice shouted oh! 379 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:56,480 I then put the phone down with considerable satisfaction. A few minutes later I got the phone 380 00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:01,520 rang again and I had to put Kate and Irate brother-in-law who was complaining I nearly 381 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:07,920 busted his ears long. So I'm not really sure whether to recommend this method or not. 382 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:16,400 However again to get back to Men in Black it's obviously really up to the individual to 383 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:22,480 make up his or her own mind on the evidence available as to whether they do exist. 384 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:30,800 For my part and if you think it's a dentary that I seem to treat things a little lightly 385 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:37,040 this is because I believe that a sense of humor is very necessary in this interest about. Without it 386 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:43,360 one can start to take oneself far too seriously and lose one's perspective. This however is 387 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:49,360 something totally different from taking a subject seriously which I hope I do. For my part 388 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:55,600 therefore and I would stress from it is only my opinion it seems to me that whilst there could be 389 00:40:55,600 --> 00:41:03,280 a lot of wildly exaggerated and made up stories concerning MIB activity at bottom I think there 390 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:11,120 are some grounds at end rate to indicate that some of these gen-dries do exist. Now if and again I say 391 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:19,680 one acceptor existence the question obviously becomes who are they? And again if one assumes 392 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:26,880 their purpose is to dissuade further author research why are they doing so? There's a possibility 393 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:32,400 they're agents of various governments. They could be earthmen controlled by alien beings. 394 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:39,280 They could be aliens themselves. They could be agents of this world's best interest 395 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:45,040 they are all friends and owns of Europe if you like. They could be genuine investigators 396 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:49,280 whose actions have been misinterpreted by some of the people on whom they've called. 397 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:56,320 They could be employed even by sources of societies and journals to whip up interest when it makes 398 00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:01,760 me to be flogging another sort of vested interest from the state. But as I said earlier everyone likes 399 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:07,040 the mystery. So I'm sure you all agree that the farthest societies in this country are concerned 400 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,960 there's not one society in Britain that could afford to employ full-time staff 401 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:18,240 making like a lot of other men in blood. Well what would be their object? Well we have the old 402 00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:23,280 chestnuts suppose the idea of their being government agents is concerned but source of 403 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:28,080 information is being suppressed because it could cause panic and mass hysteria. 404 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:34,640 Yet if so this method would seem more likely to create panic than to stop it. 405 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,520 It might be that aliens are deliberately trying either to suppress information 406 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:47,680 getting out about themselves or just to confuse us. It could be as many people think that we are 407 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:53,760 the center of a conflict between good and evil forces, the many black obviously representing 408 00:42:53,760 --> 00:43:00,880 the evil or the panic forces. It's possible if the answer is that their agents are vested interest 409 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:08,640 that they're being used to combat the likelihood of any great degree of contact between our 410 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:15,280 soul and benevolently inclined space people which might lead to a complete social technological 411 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:21,600 and if you like moral resolution and that this would completely shatter their position power. 412 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:28,400 As I say it's a valid point to do. So I'm sure it must be plenty of more possibilities that I have in 413 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:36,400 mind. I'm sure you can doubt this thing quite a few more yourself. But I'm going to wind up 414 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:44,080 the moment by leaving you with two further thoughts. The first one being that all this 415 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:49,200 countries and I'm sure all other countries too, all this countries sources societies 416 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,840 suffer because of the various shades of opinion that there are source of why. 417 00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:58,400 Which changes often very difficult and it's not impossible to reconcile. 418 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:04,240 Anyway one question I'll let you to think about is rather than a dramatic one, 419 00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:11,680 could it be that in fact some of the many black are many white. The second thought goes back to 420 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:17,520 the as it gets black again. Now surprising you know how frequently witches and witchcraft and 421 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:23,280 black magic crop up in connection with UFO investigation. I know three or four such cases 422 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:28,720 over the last three months. So could our many black have any connections with witchcraft? 423 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:35,920 Well I think I've covered a fair amount of ground possibly too much. So I'll just finish with a 424 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:42,080 request. Should any of you be approached at any time by any of these countries and feel they are 425 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:49,120 the genuine article so to speak. Please don't keep it to yourself. Tell me about it as well. Thank you.